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Something that’s very important to understand is that you don’t HAVE to polish before ceramic coating. We used to polish every single car regardless if the client wanted it or not. And then, with automative paint often as thin as ever, we realized that polishing every single car for clients that don’t need or want it, was actually doing more harm in the long run.
TO BE CLEAR: you should absolutely polish before ceramic coating IF you want the car to have the BEST shine out there. However, you should not polish before ceramic coating just because the internet says you should. Polishing is often incredibly important and almost necessary to remove oxidation or other imperfections (such as automatic car wash swirls or similar). We simply do not require it – many people do not see all of the imperfections.
In this video from Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings, the topic of whether or not paint polishing is necessary before applying a ceramic coating is discussed. The presenter argues that polishing is not required and provides four key reasons for this perspective.
First, the presenter suggests that ego often drives the belief that paint must be in perfect condition before ceramic coating. However, many clients are not concerned about minor imperfections, and the pursuit of perfection can actually harm the paint by thinning out its protective layer.
Second, the argument that paint needs to be polished for ceramic coating to bond effectively is challenged. The presenter questions why other surfaces like wheels or glass are not polished before coating, suggesting that it doesn’t make sense to single out paint.
Third, the presenter speculates that the belief in mandatory polishing may have originated as a way to increase costs and profits for detailing companies. However, this practice may not be scientifically supported.
Finally, the presenter argues that incorrect polishing techniques and failure to use proper panel prep sprays may actually increase the chances of ceramic coating failure. Without thorough removal of polishing residues and contaminants, coatings can’t adhere properly.
The main message conveyed is that polishing should be done based on the client’s needs and desires rather than being seen as an obligatory step. By focusing on what the client wants and providing services accordingly, detailers can build trust and offer more tailored solutions.
Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings emphasizes that they love polishing but only do it when the client requests or requires it, aligning their services with the client’s best interests and budget.
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They did a great job. Very knowledgeable and got my car done fast.
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Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings, Matt Jones and team did an awesome/amazing job on my C7 Corvette ZO6 with paint correction and Ceramic Pro coating…The car now has a perfect mirror like finish that is smooth as “butter”!!!
Matt also took the time to show me how to clean and maintain the new ceramic coated surface as well as supplied me with professional grade products and micro fiber towels for cleaning my Corvette.
Took professional photos of completed work and registered my warranty info with the Ceramic Pro manufacturer!!
Highly recommend and will be taking my other vehicles to HHCC/Matt Jones!!💯
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Highly recommend for all your ceramic coating needs
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Matthew is very personable. He is also very passionate about what he does. I brought my car over for an estimate and he went inside and grabbed the polisher and the secret sauce then he polished a small area in front of me to give me a demonstration of what he does to rid the swirl marks and other blemishes from the paint. His talents were impressiveHe is also very professional and cares about his customers. I plan on taking my other car and girlfriend’s car as well. The only thing that sucks is the fact you will have to drive past those automatic car washes because they’re the enemy when it comes to your car. I pray he stays in business forever, because my laziness usually wins. On a serious note, you cannot go wrong when it comes to a man’s car. I think women are on that wave now too. Worth the time, money and meeting a very cool person. God bless!!
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Hey fellow detailers how’s it going I want to
talk to you today about a controversial subject
and that is you do not need to conduct a paint
correction paint enhancement or polish prior to
installing a ceramic coating and I’m gonna tell
you all the reasons
why you don’t need to do that and then back I’m
gonna tell you at the end why I think polishing a
vehicle prior to installing a ceramic coating will
actually likely increase the chances that your
ceramic coating will fail so stick around for the
full video because I’m gonna talk to you about
that at the end
today to explain why polishing is not
necessary and why it doesn’t make sense for him
before applying a ceramic coating so if you agree
or disagree please put in the comments or if
you’re seeing this video via Facebook in one of
our detailing groups by all means agree or
disagree in the comments point by point there and
I can always a copy and paste it into the video
alright Number one is ego all right and that’s
gonna bother people
but fortunately
Yvan Lacroix
kind of turned me onto this sometime ago and that
is we as detailers let ego get in the way we say
you know the paint has to be a certain level of
perfection it doesn’t not everybody thinks it has
been 100% perfect before they install ceramic
but there is a degree of ego in play where people
think that the paint has to be a certain way you
know they don’t want their name on it etc. etc.
listen I’m here to tell you that many people do
not care about swirls they don’t care about
defects in the paint they only care that their
vehicle is easy to clean up and that’s not a
knock on them
that may be some thing that is you know that’s
our our problem as detailers is we are so
concerned about our how something looks that’s
all we see but that’s not what
9 9% of the population sees
defects that we are seeing that we think we need to
be corrected prior to applying a ceramic coating
they don’t they don’t at all and I are in the
reality is
our ego actually damages the paint so if your
polishing some thing where the client doesn’t
feel ithat’s necessary but you’re doing it
just to do it
because you have some preconceived notion of what
the paint looks like prior to installing ceramic
coating what you’re doing is your reducing the UV
protection your reducing the longevity of the
coating and you are actually increasing the chance
of the coating could scratch or a sorry that the
paint will scratch in the future because we’ve
thinned out that protective layer know if the
customer doesn’t want swirls removed or defects removed
then the risk is worth the gain
if the client is
unconcerned about the appearance of their paint we
are actually doing a lot more harm than we are
doing good so don’t let your ego get in the way
All right so point number two and this is what I
tend to gravitate towards when I’m talking to
detailers insist that I was in the paint is a
requirement prior to installing a ceramic coating
it doesn’t make sense it doesn’t make sense at
all if you think about it so the usual arguments
are you know the paint needs to be you know kinda
leveled out or you know it needs to have defects
removed so the coating
can bond to the service that argument doesn’t
make sense
a lot of wheels on the market a lot of calipers
on the market there painted they’re high temp
paint maybe but they’re painted that’s why you
can still polish many painted wheels so are those
detailers are they polishing the ins and outs
backsides in nooks and crannies of every single
spoke on the wheel before they’re applying a
ceramic coating are they polishing the brake
calipers the answer to that question is probably
not and if they say they are I have to question that
Validity but
you know if you don’t have to polish the wheel
prior to applying a ceramic coating why do you
have the polish the paint if there’s surfaces that are even
is the argument you know we’re not polishing
textures plastic most people are not polishing the
glass from prior to installing ceramic coating
most people are polish chrome nobody’s polishing
painted fake chrome plastic pieces that you see
in all these things are not being polished by 9 9
. 9 9% of detailers prior to applying ceramic
coating so why do you have to polish it before
you put it on the paint it doesn’t make sense the
level you know defect thing that doesn’t make any
sense
you know from a commonsense standpoint it just
doesn’t make sense that you would have to polish
paint but no other surface so it doesn’t make
sense that point number two point number three is
I believe
At one point in some money grab that turned into a
in facts and in other words it’s
been repeated so many times
you know this is the way we always do it that
sort of thing that it turned into
really it was you know an opportunity for money
grab which I don’t believe in
so what what I mean by that is you know if I is a
coating company or I is a company in general I
want my installers to make more money I want them
to be successful because of their successful
they’re spending more money with me right so I
tell them you have the polish paint prior to
installing ceramic coating and how is that a
money grab that means that they’re gonna pass
that onto a client they’re gonna charge the
client more their tickets are going to be higher
they’re gonna get more money back
and they’re gonna reinvest that into whatever
company they’re with
so I don’t think
you know I am I firmly believe that It was some
sort of you know money grab or promotion
that has just turned into facts like you must do
this and nobody has been able to show me the
science behind why you must polish so that’s
point number three all right point number four
number four them and talk to you about it it’s
probably gonna be someone controversial but this
is what I think I think that polishing by and
large by the numbers of detailers statistically
is causing more coating failures and not can you
save yourself that doesn’t make sense and I agree
it’s done correctly doesn’t make sense but what
I’ve seen on Facebook message groups you know
what forums
people insist on polishing paint but nobody
mentioned using the correct solvent base panel
prep I don’t say nobody but there’s a lot of
instances where solvent based panel prep is not
mentioned or mentioned correctly as the final
step after polishing prior to applying to ceramic
here we use SB3 eady panel prep here but
we’ve also use Maguires M1 2 2 americana
global
but what happens is what I’ve seen
insist that polishing required but then you know
maybe they use isopropyl alcohol wipe afterwards
which is an sufficient to get the polishes
residues oils or they don’t mention a panel prep
spray as the final step at all which leads me to
believe that they’re not doing it or they’re not
doing it correctly it’s so
if your polishing but you’re not doing that step
correctly in the polishing will increase your
chances of a ceramic coating failure and I
actually did a video on this of the proper
application of a panel prep spray and the reason
is because you’re applying the ceramic coating to
a service that has fillers contaminants oils
whatever from the polishing and the compound the
polishes ompound so
that will increase your ceramic coating failure
if you don’t remove those so if you’re not Panel
prep correctly how are you’re using isopropyl
alcohol or you’re just washing the vehicle
afterwards you’re going to increase your chances
of failure alright I gave you my four reasons as to
why I think
polishing is not a requirement and or
why people believe that it is a requirement
the key take away here is what does the client
want what does the client need not what do you
need what do they need what do they want they don’t
care about swirls and scratches why are you
polishing the paint there’s no need to do it
you’re just harming the paint
long-term or something that they may be don’t
care about it’s not about
you not giving the client
perfect product or being a superior detailer it’s
about being in business and if you are giving
away hours of your own labor
and material product you name it you’re not gonna
be in business very long to help that client
going down in the future Or you’ll not be able to
expand your business to help more clients until
you know we love polishing here at Harker Heights
ceramic coatings I love it I do it all the time I
take hammered vehicles and I bring them back to
life and it’s probably my favorite type of job
far more than your bra for more than the
application process of ceramic in general because
it elicits the best reaction from the clients
that want it but the clients they don’t want it
they don’t need it maybe it’s not in their budget
but they want that clean up and that is a clean
up on ceramic coating
that’s where we come in to play and we knew gain
more trust from the client looking out for their
best interest in their best
you know financial than you do just giving them a
service that they didn’t ask for and they didn’t
pay for it it’s actually harful
you don’t need to polish your vehicle prior to
installing a ceramic coating let me know what you
think in the Comments
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Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings began in 2021 with the goal of providing central Texas with premium vehicle detailing. Every service ensures long-lasting paint enhancement and renewed vehicle value. I believe in open communication and creating a lasting relationship with my clients by providing high-quality services that are tailor-made for your unique vehicle. Through the art of applying professional-grade ceramic coatings, a self-healing clear bra, performing paint correction, and my full-vehicle detailing services, every customer will receive top-tier protection with a showroom-worthy finish.
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