Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings • Sep 20, 2023
Do you need to polish before ceramic coating? What you need to know
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We ALWAYS take into account what the client wants with their vehicle. We polish vehicle all of the time - but only for people who need/want it!

Something that’s very important to understand is that you don’t HAVE to polish before ceramic coating. We used to polish every single car regardless if the client wanted it or not. And then, with automative paint often as thin as ever, we realized that polishing every single car for clients that don’t need or want it, was actually doing more harm in the long run.



TO BE CLEAR: you should absolutely polish before ceramic coating IF you want the car to have the BEST shine out there. However, you should not polish before ceramic coating just because the internet says you should. Polishing is often incredibly important and almost necessary to remove oxidation or other imperfections (such as automatic car wash swirls or similar). We simply do not require it – many people do not see all of the imperfections.

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Polish before ceramic coating summary:

In this video from Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings, the topic of whether or not paint polishing is necessary before applying a ceramic coating is discussed. The presenter argues that polishing is not required and provides four key reasons for this perspective.


First, the presenter suggests that ego often drives the belief that paint must be in perfect condition before ceramic coating. However, many clients are not concerned about minor imperfections, and the pursuit of perfection can actually harm the paint by thinning out its protective layer.


Second, the argument that paint needs to be polished for ceramic coating to bond effectively is challenged. The presenter questions why other surfaces like wheels or glass are not polished before coating, suggesting that it doesn’t make sense to single out paint.


Third, the presenter speculates that the belief in mandatory polishing may have originated as a way to increase costs and profits for detailing companies. However, this practice may not be scientifically supported.


Finally, the presenter argues that incorrect polishing techniques and failure to use proper panel prep sprays may actually increase the chances of ceramic coating failure. Without thorough removal of polishing residues and contaminants, coatings can’t adhere properly.


The main message conveyed is that polishing should be done based on the client’s needs and desires rather than being seen as an obligatory step. By focusing on what the client wants and providing services accordingly, detailers can build trust and offer more tailored solutions.


Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings emphasizes that they love polishing but only do it when the client requests or requires it, aligning their services with the client’s best interests and budget.

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    • steven perricone
    • 17 March 2024

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    They did a great job. Very knowledgeable and got my car done fast.

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    • Jeff Garrett
    • 6 March 2024

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    Harker Heights Ceramic Coatings, Matt Jones and team did an awesome/amazing job on my C7 Corvette ZO6 with paint correction and Ceramic Pro coating…The car now has a perfect mirror like finish that is smooth as “butter”!!!


    Matt also took the time to show me how to clean and maintain the new ceramic coated surface as well as supplied me with professional grade products and micro fiber towels for cleaning my Corvette.


    Took professional photos of completed work and registered my warranty info with the Ceramic Pro manufacturer!!


    Highly recommend and will be taking my other vehicles to HHCC/Matt Jones!!💯


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    Highly recommend for all your ceramic coating needs

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    • Antron “DJ Megatron” Vaughn
    • 29 February 2024

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    Matthew is very personable. He is also very passionate about what he does. I brought my car over for an estimate and he went inside and grabbed the polisher and the secret sauce then he polished a small area in front of me to give me a demonstration of what he does to rid the swirl marks and other blemishes from the paint. His talents were impressiveHe is also very professional and cares about his customers. I plan on taking my other car and girlfriend’s car as well. The only thing that sucks is the fact you will have to drive past those automatic car washes because they’re the enemy when it comes to your car. I pray he stays in business forever, because my laziness usually wins. On a serious note, you cannot go wrong when it comes to a man’s car. I think women are on that wave now too. Worth the time, money and meeting a very cool person. God bless!!

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Do you need to polish before ceramic coating? - Copperas Cove/Killeen/Harker Heights

Hey fellow detailers how’s it going I want to

talk to you today about a controversial subject


and that is you do not need to conduct a paint

correction paint enhancement or polish prior to


installing a ceramic coating and I’m gonna tell

you all the reasons


why you don’t need to do that and then back I’m

gonna tell you at the end why I think polishing a


vehicle prior to installing a ceramic coating will

actually likely increase the chances that your


ceramic coating will fail so stick around for the

full video because I’m gonna talk to you about


that at the end


today to explain why polishing is not

necessary and why it doesn’t make sense for him


before applying a ceramic coating so if you agree

or disagree please put in the comments or if


you’re seeing this video via Facebook in one of

our detailing groups by all means agree or


disagree in the comments point by point there and

I can always a copy and paste it into the video


alright Number one is ego all right and that’s

gonna bother people


but fortunately


Yvan Lacroix


kind of turned me onto this sometime ago and that

is we as detailers let ego get in the way we say


you know the paint has to be a certain level of

perfection it doesn’t not everybody thinks it has


been 100% perfect before they install ceramic


but there is a degree of ego in play where people

think that the paint has to be a certain way you


know they don’t want their name on it etc. etc.

listen I’m here to tell you that many people do


not care about swirls they don’t care about

defects in the paint they only care that their


vehicle is easy to clean up and that’s not a

knock on them


that may be some thing that is you know that’s

our our problem as detailers is we are so


concerned about our how something looks that’s

all we see but that’s not what


9 9% of the population sees


defects that we are seeing that we think we need to

be corrected prior to applying a ceramic coating


they don’t they don’t at all and I are in the

reality is


our ego actually damages the paint so if your

polishing some thing where the client doesn’t


feel ithat’s necessary but you’re doing it

just to do it


because you have some preconceived notion of what

the paint looks like prior to installing ceramic


coating what you’re doing is your reducing the UV

protection your reducing the longevity of the


coating and you are actually increasing the chance

of the coating could scratch or a sorry that the


paint will scratch in the future because we’ve

thinned out that protective layer know if the


customer doesn’t want swirls removed or defects removed

then the risk is worth the gain


if the client is


unconcerned about the appearance of their paint we

are actually doing a lot more harm than we are


doing good so don’t let your ego get in the way


All right so point number two and this is what I

tend to gravitate towards when I’m talking to


detailers insist that I was in the paint is a

requirement prior to installing a ceramic coating


it doesn’t make sense it doesn’t make sense at

all if you think about it so the usual arguments


are you know the paint needs to be you know kinda

leveled out or you know it needs to have defects


removed so the coating


can bond to the service that argument doesn’t

make sense


a lot of wheels on the market a lot of calipers

on the market there painted they’re high temp


paint maybe but they’re painted that’s why you

can still polish many painted wheels so are those


detailers are they polishing the ins and outs

backsides in nooks and crannies of every single


spoke on the wheel before they’re applying a

ceramic coating are they polishing the brake


calipers the answer to that question is probably

not and if they say they are I have to question that


Validity but


you know if you don’t have to polish the wheel

prior to applying a ceramic coating why do you


have the polish the paint if there’s surfaces that are even

is the argument you know we’re not polishing


textures plastic most people are not polishing the

glass from prior to installing ceramic coating


most people are polish chrome nobody’s polishing

painted fake chrome plastic pieces that you see


in all these things are not being polished by 9 9

. 9 9% of detailers prior to applying ceramic


coating so why do you have to polish it before

you put it on the paint it doesn’t make sense the


level you know defect thing that doesn’t make any

sense


you know from a commonsense standpoint it just

doesn’t make sense that you would have to polish


paint but no other surface so it doesn’t make

sense that point number two point number three is


I believe


At one point in some money grab that turned into a


in facts and in other words it’s

been repeated so many times


you know this is the way we always do it that

sort of thing that it turned into


really it was you know an opportunity for money

grab which I don’t believe in


so what what I mean by that is you know if I is a

coating company or I is a company in general I


want my installers to make more money I want them

to be successful because of their successful


they’re spending more money with me right so I

tell them you have the polish paint prior to


installing ceramic coating and how is that a

money grab that means that they’re gonna pass


that onto a client they’re gonna charge the

client more their tickets are going to be higher


they’re gonna get more money back


and they’re gonna reinvest that into whatever

company they’re with


so I don’t think


you know I am I firmly believe that It was some

sort of you know money grab or promotion


that has just turned into facts like you must do

this and nobody has been able to show me the


science behind why you must polish so that’s

point number three all right point number four


number four them and talk to you about it it’s

probably gonna be someone controversial but this


is what I think I think that polishing by and

large by the numbers of detailers statistically


is causing more coating failures and not can you

save yourself that doesn’t make sense and I agree


it’s done correctly doesn’t make sense but what

I’ve seen on Facebook message groups you know


what forums


people insist on polishing paint but nobody

mentioned using the correct solvent base panel


prep I don’t say nobody but there’s a lot of

instances where solvent based panel prep is not


mentioned or mentioned correctly as the final

step after polishing prior to applying to ceramic


here we use SB3 eady panel prep here but

we’ve also use Maguires M1 2 2 americana


global


but what happens is what I’ve seen


insist that polishing required but then you know

maybe they use isopropyl alcohol wipe afterwards


which is an sufficient to get the polishes

residues oils or they don’t mention a panel prep


spray as the final step at all which leads me to

believe that they’re not doing it or they’re not


doing it correctly it’s so


if your polishing but you’re not doing that step

correctly in the polishing will increase your


chances of a ceramic coating failure and I

actually did a video on this of the proper


application of a panel prep spray and the reason

is because you’re applying the ceramic coating to


a service that has fillers contaminants oils

whatever from the polishing and the compound the


polishes ompound so


that will increase your ceramic coating failure

if you don’t remove those so if you’re not Panel


prep correctly how are you’re using isopropyl

alcohol or you’re just washing the vehicle


afterwards you’re going to increase your chances

of failure alright I gave you my four reasons as to


why I think


polishing is not a requirement and or


why people believe that it is a requirement


the key take away here is what does the client

want what does the client need not what do you


need what do they need what do they want they don’t

care about swirls and scratches why are you


polishing the paint there’s no need to do it

you’re just harming the paint


long-term or something that they may be don’t

care about it’s not about


you not giving the client


perfect product or being a superior detailer it’s

about being in business and if you are giving


away hours of your own labor


and material product you name it you’re not gonna

be in business very long to help that client


going down in the future Or you’ll not be able to

expand your business to help more clients until


you know we love polishing here at Harker Heights

ceramic coatings I love it I do it all the time I


take hammered vehicles and I bring them back to

life and it’s probably my favorite type of job


far more than your bra for more than the

application process of ceramic in general because


it elicits the best reaction from the clients

that want it but the clients they don’t want it


they don’t need it maybe it’s not in their budget

but they want that clean up and that is a clean


up on ceramic coating


that’s where we come in to play and we knew gain

more trust from the client looking out for their


best interest in their best


you know financial than you do just giving them a

service that they didn’t ask for and they didn’t


pay for it it’s actually harful


you don’t need to polish your vehicle prior to

installing a ceramic coating let me know what you


think in the Comments

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